Ishmael’s ax

Islam, the religion of peace continues to strike our nation. This time in the bloody tradition of Ishmael’s Ax and killing 32 at the last count I heard. Sure he may have been a troubled youth and a rejected suitor, but he didn’t wallow and sob with a bottle of Jack Daniel’s, he picked up a gun. He didn’t turn himself in after he lost it and went on his first rampage. No he wrote a note and picked up a gun.

Admitting that the religion of peace is a problem is the first step to solving it.

Surrendering in the Middle East is not!

4/18/07 – There has been a lot of Google traffic hitting this post and LGF has a reference to what a commenter said so I thought I would pull the comments up front to make things easier.

Comment 1

The Rich White Kids/Debauchery were Shot down!

Ishmael Ax!

The name has come to symbolize orphans, exiles, and social outcasts—in the opening paragraph of Moby-Dick, Ishmael tells the reader that he has turned to the sea out of a feeling of alienation from human society.

Will U people eVa learn what Racism Does!!!

sondjy on April 17th, 2007

Comment 2

True, I believe we are to call the whaler Ishmael because he is an outcast. But you have to go back a bit further to explain the ax.

Ishmael was the son of Abraham by Hagar, not his wife Sarah. Abraham turned Ishmael and Hagar out into the desert. Ishmael was an orphan and the claimed father of Arabs. Abraham at one point had his faith tested by God when God commanded him to sacrifice his son with an ax/knife. This son was Isaac if you are Judeo/Christian and Ismail if you favor the Koran. This is still a holiday for Muslims and celebrates their willingness to sacrifice by ax/knife those they hold dear if commanded by Allah. Ismail’s ax is the one meant for Ismail.

This is my take on the subject. I’m sure there is a scholar out there who will correct my take.

And where did you get racism from my post? Will U people eVa learn what crying wolf about racism does!!!

wally on April 17th, 2007

4/18/07 – I guess when we read his note and view his multimedia manefesto we will see what variety of derangement this man had: normal, drug induced, or religious.

Va. Tech gunman sent material to NBC

VT Killer Contacted NBC News

4/24/07 – Another option on Ishmael’s ax may be the Ishmael in the book of Jerimiah.

Now it came to pass in the seventh month, that Ishmael the son of Nethaniah the son of Elishama, of the seed royal, and the princes of the king, even ten men with him, came unto Gedaliah the son of Ahikam to Mizpah; and there they did eat bread together in Mizpah.

Then arose Ishmael the son of Nethaniah, and the ten men that were with him, and smote Gedaliah the son of Ahikam the son of Shaphan with the sword, and slew him, whom the king of Babylon had made governor over the land. Ishmael also slew all the Jews that were with him, even with Gedaliah, at Mizpah, and the Chaldeans that were found there, and the men of war.

And it came to pass the second day after he had slain Gedaliah, and no man knew it, That there came certain from Shechem, from Shiloh, and from Samaria, even fourscore men, having their beards shaven, and their clothes rent, and having cut themselves, with offerings and incense in their hand, to bring them to the house of the LORD. And Ishmael the son of Nethaniah went forth from Mizpah to meet them, weeping all along as he went: and it came to pass, as he met them, he said unto them, Come to Gedaliah the son of Ahikam. And it was so, when they came into the midst of the city, that Ishmael the son of Nethaniah slew them, and cast them into the midst of the pit, he, and the men that were with him.
(Jeremiah 41:1-7)

In this story Ishmael surprised fellow party guests by massacring them and then after 2 days of no one noticing his handiwork, he ambushed another group, massacred them and threw them into a pit.

It’s curiously similar to the Cho massacre with the initial killing and the second killing wave following a delay where the initial massacre went seemingly unnoticed. Though the weapon according to the King James version is a sword, it is translated from a word that has several possibilities.

H2719
???
chereb
kheh’-reb
From H2717; drought; also a cutting instrument (from its destructive effect), as a knife, sword, or other sharp implement: – axe, dagger, knife, mattock, sword, tool.

Is this Ishmael’s ax?

4 thoughts on “Ishmael’s ax

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  2. first people of all kinds get picked on in K-12 school mostly because those individuals haven’t figured out how to socialize ie their personality i was a white kid picked on by other white kids by the way i’m not saying it’s ok to bully or anything stupid along those lines but being picked on doesn’t cause problems it may expose them if you have them already …. in addition there is an Ishmael Axe i believe in history i read about who was sunni or a shia muslim or something related to a rebellion against persia i think i don’t remember exacts and i can’t find it now it’s been 10 years since i read it i’m thinking i’m a hs grad and he’s in college a senior i’m betting he read about it somewhere too can anyone else find more info on this than i’ve found

  3. True, I believe we are to call the whaler Ishmael because he is an outcast. But you have to go back a bit further to explain the ax.

    Ishmael was the son of Abraham by Hagar, not his wife Sarah. Abraham turned Ishmael and Hagar out into the desert. Ishmael was an orphan and the claimed father of Arabs. Abraham at one point had his faith tested by God when God commanded him to sacrifice his son with an ax/knife. This son was Isaac if you are Judeo/Christian and Ismail if you favor the Koran. This is still a holiday for Muslims and celebrates their willingness to sacrifice by ax/knife those they hold dear if commanded by Allah. Ismail’s ax is the one meant for Ismail.

    This is my take on the subject. I’m sure there is a scholar out there who will correct my take.

    And where did you get racism from my post? Will U people eVa learn what crying wolf about racism does!!!

  4. The Rich White Kids/Debauchery were Shot down!

    Ishmael Ax!

    The name has come to symbolize orphans, exiles, and social outcasts—in the opening paragraph of Moby-Dick, Ishmael tells the reader that he has turned to the sea out of a feeling of alienation from human society.

    Will U people eVa learn what Racism Does!!!