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Senator Obama – Muslim, Christian, or what?

Wednesday, April 30th, 2008

One of the great things about our nation is that every so often we get a chance to elect like valued people into public office. One of the not so great things is trying to sort their perceived values, from their true values and sort campaign rhetoric, from what are sometimes just outright lies. I don’t necessarily choose a person solely on their faith, but a person’s faith and how sincere they are in their following of that faith can help predict how a person will carry themselves once elected. After all, when the big decisions are made behind closed doors, only God will be watching and I want elected officials who care about what God thinks.

I wrote a post a while back titled Governor Gregoire – Catholic, Christian, or what? because her faith claims and her actions were not in sync. For instance, as a self proclaimed follower of the Catholic faith I would expect her to be pro-life, but her actions as Governor said different. If I had voted for her based on an assumption that she, as a Catholic, would be pro-life, I would be sorely disappointed.

So what of Barrack Obama? I think it’s a stretch to believe some of the stories of Senator Obama being a secret “sleeper Muslim” based on his early childhood and his father’s religious affiliations. I spent quite a few years in an LDS church growing up, yet I am not a obamaMormon. And his very loose affiliations with the Nation of Islam doesn’t make him a Muslim either. Some would argue that even devout members of the Nation of Islam are not really Muslim. So, there really isn’t much to traction for the secret Muslim conspiracy.

But is there anymore traction for believing that he is a Christian? You don’t have to do much Googling to find those who treat him as if he were a messiah and he apparently has attended a Christian church for the past two decades and enjoys a strong relationship with his pastor; but is he a Christian? First, I’ll admit that the ultimate answer to that question rests with Christ and certainly not I, but I do think we voters have a right to consider the state of a candidate’s faith.

So continuing to consider the Christian faith of Barrack Obama, let’s consider his words.

During a campaign stop yesterday in Greensboro, North Carolina, Senator Obama told the audience that he believes he “can have everlasting life” because Jesus Christ died for his sins. But he then told a questioner that he believes Jews and Muslims who live moral lives are just as much “children of God” as he is.

The Illinois Democrat added that his late mother didn’t share his faith but was a kind and generous person, so he’s “sure she’s in heaven.”

OneNewsNow

OK, I’ve considered his words and have one very gigantic concern. Mr. Obama is obviously claiming that he is a Christian and then following with several statements indicating that he really does not understand Christianity. In John 14:6 Christ said very plainly:

I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.”

The tough love is that you don’t get to heaven on kindness and generosity alone, you don’t get there by being a “moral” Jew, nor a “moral” Muslim and of course you can’t get there on roller skates. You must become a follower of Christ and you must choose to follow him on the narrow road.

“Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it. “

Contradicting God’s word, Senator Obama is claiming that the wide gate and the broad road, lead to heaven. It’s my feeling that Sen. Obama is either using false doctrine to gain support in this election, or he is espousing false doctrine because he really doesn’t understand Christianity. I prefer to believe it is his lack of understanding. And this seems quite likely given that his church of the last 20 years, Trinity United Church of Christ, seems confused as to whether they are joined by skin color or by faith in Christ. But if Sen. Obama and/or Rev. Wright are putting forth false doctrine for their own gain, then I pray they would take a glance at this small verse.

For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
(Mark 8:36 KJV)

And I hope that for the sake of those who look to them for leadership, that they would put Christ’s full message at the forefront of their life and ministry.

How relevant is religion

Sunday, February 3rd, 2008

An email this morning brought up this concern. It’s a concern I’ve heard before, so I thought I would put in my 2 cents.

So one person brought up the Mormon thing with Romney, and being the good little Layman Conservative Shaolin with Christian Tendencies that I am, suggested that is entirely irrelevant. Dear departed Hinkley worked hard for many years to dissuade folks that the Church of Jesus Christ, Latter Day Saints is not a cult, but a modernized Christian religion with a modern era prophet.

I think a person’s religion and or religious cult is entirely relevant. It is their value system. It may not determine every specific decision they make, but it is the metronome ticking away on their piano. I can’t believe that their administration would be too far out of step with their internal spiritual beliefs. So, those religious beliefs are important regardless of whether or not you consider their religion to be a cult.

I tend to think of cults as having charismatic leaders, so I hesitate calling Mormonism a cult. I do still call it a cult from time to time though. And the Catholic Church is a cult in the same fashion. I guess I could consider the Mormon Prophet and the Pope as their charismatic leaders so for the sake of argument I’ll just call them both a cult. So then consider how will the doctrines of their cults impact our nation. In the case of Mormon and Catholic cults I would say that for the most part they are right instep with the freedoms and values that our nation was founded on and in the case of conservatives; the freedoms and values we still cling to. For the conservative and/or Republican, I think the Mormon issue is a non-starter. That simple.

ellison_oath_pelosi However, if any liberal and/or Democrat negatively brings up Mormonism then I think they first need to be reminded that freedom of religion is a basic value in our nation. And then second they need to be shown this picture of Nancy Pelosi swearing in Keith Ellison on the Koran. For if they consider Mormonism an issue and possibly even a danger, then how to they reconcile their position with their position on Islam. How do they have the nerve to question Mormonism and yet accept Islam with smiling faces.

Islam is both a cult with Mohamed as their charismatic leader and a religion whose values are most definitely out of step with freedoms and values that our nation was founded on. In Islamic nations, regardless of the type of government, the religious leaders sit above the government. In Islamic nations, both the people and government serve Allah. Even if this is not possible with in our nation’s structure, is this the fall back value system we want in our leaders. I don’t think so. And while ex-Mormons may be hounded for life by LDS missionaries, they should consider themselves lucky, because those who turn from Islam often receive a legal death sentence.

Yes, a candidate’s religion is relevant. And in the case of Mitt Romney I think it is of positive relevance.

Focus on best family candidate: Mitt Romney

Saturday, February 2nd, 2008

Who James Dobson feels would make a good US President certainly is an influence on my choice. Dobson and his group Focus on the Family are one of the biggest traditional family forces in the world. While I know that as a non-profit, Focus on the Family can’t endorse and promote a candidate, but I believe they can report candidates positions on family related issues. And James Dobson can of course maintain his personal preference. His preference and their information are a valued part of my decision. So what have they been saying?

As early as late 2006, Dobson was speaking to issue that Romney might have getting conservative Christian’s to endorse him.

A prominent and powerful evangelical Christian leader, James Dobson, said yesterday that the Mormon faith practiced by Governor Romney of Massachusetts could pose a serious obstacle if Mr. Romney makes a bid for the Republican presidential nomination in 2008.

“I don’t believe that conservative Christians in large numbers will vote for a Mormon but that remains to be seen, I guess,” Mr. Dobson said on a syndicated radio program hosted by a conservative commentator, Laura Ingraham.

Mr. Dobson, the founder of the Colorado-based Focus on the Family, did not say why Christians would fail to support Mr. Romney. Mr. Dobson also acknowledged that the governor’s stands on social issues are similar to those of many religious conservatives.

The New York Sun

But Dobson did acknowledge how close Mitt and religious conservatives were on social issues and by early 2007, after he met with Romney, he is beginning to warm up to him and cool down to a few other candidates, John McCain included.

Dobson, the influential leader of the Christian organization Focus on the Family, praised Romney on a radio program and said he may end up supporting him.

“I mean he’s very presidential and he’s got the right answers to many, many things,” Dobson told conservative commenator Laura Ingraham on her show. Dobson said he hasn’t decided whom to back, but that Romney “is still on the list.”

Dobson, whose voice carries tremendous weight among Christian conservatives, said this week that he could never support former New York mayor Rudolph Giuliani. And he has said before that he won’t back the other leading Republican, Arizona Senator John McCain. That leaves Romney as the only top-tier presidential candidate who could land Dobson’s endorsement — a potentially huge boost for him as he tries to win primary voters.

Boston.com

In late 2007 Mitt Romney delivered a now famous speech to the Republican National Convention. I’ve included the YouTube here, but I’m on dialup, so I’m just taking it on faith that it will play for you.

 

 

Following Mitt’s speech Dr. Dobson delivered a few glowing words of praise for Mitt Romney and his view on faith in politics.

Colorado Springs, Colo. — Focus on the Family Action founder and chairman James C. Dobson, Ph.D., issued the following statement today in response to former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney’s speech on “Faith in America”:

“Gov. Romney’s speech was a magnificent reminder of the role religious faith must play in government and public policy. His delivery was passionate and his message was inspirational. Whether it will answer all the questions and concerns of Evangelical Christian voters is yet to be determined, but the governor is to be commended for articulating the importance of our religious heritage as it relates to today.

“Many in the media have been busily crafting the obituaries of ‘values voters’ in recent months. David Kirkpatrick of The New York Times, along with Tom Brokaw, Frank Rich and other liberal journalists, have been predicting a dramatic ‘Evangelical crackup’. They are dead wrong. Religion has already played a major role in this election cycle, and will continue to be evident through’08. The sanctity of human life, the institution of marriage and the care and nurturing of children will be important issues to people of faith as they choose a new generation of leaders. You can take it to the bank.

“Again, Gov. Romney’s speech served as a reminder that religion has always played a significant role in electoral politics. Candidates who disregard the spiritual heritage of this great nation and its viability today will do so at their peril.”

Hugh Hewitt

Yet, even though following that speech he had words of praise for Gov. Romney, it wasn’t an official endorsement for him. But I’d rather be in his position than in those of the competition. A few days ago this hit the news

Last week, the political arm of James Dobson’s Focus on the Family released an online video voter guide to help Christians sort through the “pro-family” records of the presidential candidates. The guide offers largely negative appraisals of Rudy Giuliani, John McCain and Mike Huckabee, and a far more glowing description of Mitt Romney.

The Huffington Post

CitizenLink.com has the video voter guide available online for your perusal.

And today as the campaign clearly focuses in on McCain and Romney as the front running candidates, Dobson reiterates his lack of support for John McCain.

While John McCain has risen to the top of the heap among contenders for the Republican presidential nomination, Focus on the Family founder James Dobson remains adamant that he will not support McCain’s bid for the White House.

Dobson, one of the nation’s most influential evangelical Christians, declared more than a year ago that he wouldn’t support McCain under any circumstances, saying McCain didn’t support traditional marriage values.

A Dobson spokesman told the New York Times’ David Kirkpatrick Wednesday that he stood by that position, and as a matter of conscience could never vote for the Arizona Senator.

NewsMax

“Well, let me say that I am not in the office. I’m in the little condo so I can speak for myself and not for Focus on the Family,” Dobson said in rejecting McCain’s leadership.

He noted that legislation he’d just been discussing on the program, regarding an attempt by Democrat leaders in Congress to create obstacles for ministries such as Focus to reach constituents with action messages about pending legislation, is being supported by McCain, too.

“That came from McCain, and the McCain Feingold Bill kept us from telling the truth right before elections … and there are a lot of other things. He’s not in favor of traditional marriage, and I pray that we won’t get stuck with him,” Dobson said.

WorldNet Daily

There is more than ample lack of support for his opposition, but will there ever be a Dobson statement of support for Mitt Romney? Perhaps, but I have fears that the Christian philosophical chasm may be too wide for Dr. Dobson to bridge with his support. I am a current Christian and an ex-Mormon, so I have a pretty good idea of the differences between Mormons and mainstream Christians. My opinion, from the family perspective, is that many mainstream Christian families could take a long hard look at the Mormon family model.

I value and respect James Dobson’s opinion on both John McCain and Mitt Romney, but I simply don’t have a problem simplifying what has already been stated by Dr. Dobson in so many many words. I support Mitt Romney for president.

*side note: this post is not really issue driven and as such I could see it looking like a negative piece on John McCain, but it is not the intention. CitizenLink.com as well as some of the other links will get you to facts on issues.